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In 2016 the Twins finished with the 30th best record (dead last) in major league baseball, but here it is July 4th, 2017 and the Twins have a better record than the team that finished with most big league victories--including a game 7 triumph--in the 2016 season.

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Quote from enard:
In 2016 the Twins finished with the 30th best record (dead last) in major league baseball, but here it is July 4th, 2017 and the Twins have a better record than the team that finished with most big league victories--including a game 7 triumph--in the 2016 season.


enard, No doubt about it the Twins are much improved but don't you have a feeling that the Indians will take control of the AL Central during the second half of the season?

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enard, No doubt about it the Twins are much improved but don't you have a feeling that the Indians will take control of the AL Central during the second half of the season?


More issues are leaking out about the health of Terry Francona.
He was in the hospital for the 3rd time!

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enard, No doubt about it the Twins are much improved but don't you have a feeling that the Indians will take control of the AL Central during the second half of the season?
I would be overjoyed if the Twins nabbed the number 2 wild card.

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I would be overjoyed if the Twins nabbed the number 2 wild card.


enard, I hear you man and I would be overjoyed if my underachieving Cardinals got to .500 which might almost be good enough to win the weak NL Central.

I think your Twins are in a good position to nab better than the number 2 wild card.

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More issues are leaking out about the health of Terry Francona.
He was in the hospital for the 3rd time!


Terry is a great manager and I wish him the best with the medical testing they are doing.

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Terry is a great manager and I wish him the best with the medical testing they are doing.


I would still take him in a hospital bed over Hurdle any day.

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Amazing how first time managers failed..Joe Torre with Mets as player/ mgr and Fancona with Phillies

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Amazing how first time managers failed..Joe Torre with Mets as player/ mgr and Fancona with Phillies


George must have thought that Billy Martin failed several times.

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George must have thought that Billy Martin failed several times.


Billy may not have won championships elsewhere b4 yankees mgr but he sure made those other teams betta..i believe he was a good manager ask Reggie
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Billy may not have won championships elsewhere b4 yankees mgr but he sure made those other teams betta..i believe he was a good manager ask Reggie
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George and Billy created a lot of drama that sold tickets so I would say they were both good promoters. George was also a great businessman by buying the Yankees from CBS for 25 million and turning them into a billion dollar empire by buying a few championships along the way . . . just ask Reggie.

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George and Billy created a lot of drama that sold tickets so I would say they were both good promoters. George was also a great businessman by buying the Yankees from CBS for 25 million and turning them into a billion dollar empire by buying a few championships along the way . . . just ask Reggie.



$8.7 million Tommy..makes George look really like a good business man

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$8.7 million Tommy..makes George look really like a good business man


You forgot to add all the perks that were involved in George's buy from CBS like many box seats and suites for CBS executives, CBS advertising on the scoreboard, CBS advertising for the 80 different CBS divisions within CBS, etc. for a total package of 25 million. I once saw the itemized breakdown of all the perks that equaled 25 million for the total sale while I was with CBS but I don't remember all of the perks that were listed. At the time CBS sold the Yankees to George they were happy to get rid of them because they were losing money on the Yankees.

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You forgot to add all the perks that were involved in George's buy from CBS like many box seats and suites for CBS executives, CBS advertising on the scoreboard, CBS advertising for the 80 different CBS divisions within CBS, etc. for a total package of 25 million. I once saw the itemized breakdown of all the perks that equaled 25 million for the total sale while I was with CBS but I don't remember all of the perks that were listed. At the time CBS sold the Yankees to George they were happy to get rid of them because they were losing money on the Yankees.


Perks are writeoffs...here is info again


George Steinbrenner's purchase of the New York Yankees paid off big time for his family

In 1973, George Steinbrenner led a group that purchased the New York Yankees from CBS for $8.7 million. Forty-two years later, the franchise is now worth $3.2 billion according to the latest valuations from Forbes.com.

Steinbrenner's initial investment in the purchase of the team was just $168,000 (about $890,000 in today's dollars) according to the L.A. Times, or about 1.9% of the total sale price. By the time Steinbrenner passed away in 2010, his stake in the team had grown to 57%. That share was passed on to his family, led by his sons Hank and Hal.

If the Steinbrenner family still owns 57% of the team, it is now worth more than $1.8 billion, or about 200,000% more than the elder Steinbrenner's initial investment (considering inflation).

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Perks are writeoffs...here is info again


George Steinbrenner's purchase of the New York Yankees paid off big time for his family

In 1973, George Steinbrenner led a group that purchased the New York Yankees from CBS for $8.7 million. Forty-two years later, the franchise is now worth $3.2 billion according to the latest valuations from Forbes.com.

Steinbrenner's initial investment in the purchase of the team was just $168,000 (about $890,000 in today's dollars) according to the L.A. Times, or about 1.9% of the total sale price. By the time Steinbrenner passed away in 2010, his stake in the team had grown to 57%. That share was passed on to his family, led by his sons Hank and Hal.

If the Steinbrenner family still owns 57% of the team, it is now worth more than $1.8 billion, or about 200,000% more than the elder Steinbrenner's initial investment (considering inflation).


Sorp, There was also stock shares and stock options involved in this sale. I'll try to get up with an old CBS buddy who has the correct and itemized list of the total sale and send it to you if he is still alive. Nevertheless, George and his group made one of the best buys in modern business history. George must have been trained by John D. Rockefeller . . .

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We've had a way of hanging in there like a bad cold, tommy. Every sportscaster here picked them for last with probably a worse record than last year, but here it is All Star time and we have three guys on the team.

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Amazing how first time managers failed..Joe Torre with Mets as player/ mgr and Fancona with Phillies


Torre never won a thing managing the Mets or the Braves or the Cardinals. He did pretty well after that.

Francona? You have to give him something to work with and the Phillies didn't. His record with the Red Sox and Indians speaks for itself.

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Billy Martin's first and only season with the Twins he won the Western Division title.

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Billy may not have won championships elsewhere b4 yankees mgr but he sure made those other teams betta..i believe he was a good manager ask Reggie
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Reggie wouldn't dare say differently if Billy were still alive.

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We've had a way of hanging in there like a bad cold, tommy. Every sportscaster here picked them for last with probably a worse record than last year, but here it is All Star time and we have three guys on the team.


I still believe that your Twins are in a good position to make a second half run that will get them into the playoffs. Right now several 2nd and 3rd place teams in the AL are in this same position.

The NL is a different story because both wild cards will come out of the NL West unless Arizona and Colorado totally collapse.